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The Myth About Bots

1. Intelligence of Bots Makers: Lakoo has recently been trying to crack down on bots. Understandibly they few bots as cheating. I have never used a bot or anything, but I am begging to think very differently about how they are considered cheating. Someone who bots firstly has to have the intelligence and computer knowledge to create the bot, hack the game, and then have the bot basically follow a set a directives that repair, regenerate, sell, keep res/chest. Its pretty impressive to say the least.

2. Bots are Helpful To All Players: Bots are the most helpful thing possible in empire online. Bots create massive amounts of res allowing the top empires to continuously make new buildings. New items and weapons shops, new institutes to upgrades skills etc. Bots are a good thing, and if someone is smart enough to create one, as a community we shouldn't report or treat bots with a negative view. That new institution that you plan on using will be funded by the resources of a bot. That cheap key you are purchasing was made by a bot. There arent too many bots out there, probably 3-4 that I know of, but they should not be reported.

Bots are so helpful for all players it would be dumb to help lakoo weed them out of the game. Lakoo's principles to detect bots is weak and after I had reported a bot 2 months ago I got a message asking me for more information (ie, where, what empire, whats the player number). Its like they didnt bother to do the leg work, and when I asked for confirmation if they were bot they said yes. I simply said can I get a reward, to which I was rejected. So here is the plan, DO NOT REPORT BOTS. Help all players in the game grow. Who cares if SG empire are strong? It doesnt matter. The faster they grow the better.

3. Empire Building: Frankly, most empires are irrelevant. They are either inactive, in small numbers, or just have no strength.I understand you want to play with your friends, and in a group that you like and whatever, but in order for most players to benefit from the game, we need SG/SHOGUN/SGE to grow faster.Why not help SG group grow faster? It benefits all players to join and send their resources to SG family. Apart from their taxes (currently at 99%,88%, and 9%) these empires are making the overall gamming experience better for everyone. NEW ITEMS, SKILLS, WEAPONS!

4. Closing Argument: These are great things and as a community, we should not report bots, instead we should support those who have the knowledge to create them. They benefit all players, even if you are not a serious player the top empires offer great skills and items needed to grow stronger. So PLEASE do not report bots, don't feel negative about the top couple empires who choose to use them becasue they benefit everyone indirectly.

Ok, let's just repeat, I don't bot. I originally viewed bots as bad and tried to report them. However, bots are the reason why our game is growing quickly and bots improve our overall game experience.

Its not like lakoo isnt ripping us off with low drop rates or things such as thor (opened 1200 55golden chests and never got a single thor), or perms (opened 600 45 warrior and wizard chests and got no ire, no unicorn, and 2 perms). Lakoo sees bots as cheating, and from their point of view it is. But from a empire online community bots should be looked upon as helpful to our positive experience.

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    Lee Cotterill

    Again, I don't bot. Or even know of anyone who does. But I hope this offers a different opinion.

    -Cots

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    RyuFang

    dont worrry its only illegal.

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    RyuFang

    :D

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    ChiTieu

    After all Its still illegal

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    Lee Cotterill

    If they aren't going to police their own game effectively, then ask for the communities help to do so, then not reward the community. Seems to be a disconnect. If the community helps, we aren't rewarded. When I first reported bots, I was told to mind my own busness. After the new detect bot innitiative, I reported bots again. I was told I needed to provide all this information to GM, like way over the top information about bots. I did the leg work, sent in the information.

    I was never sent a message saying 'oh thank you' or for your troubles here is a little gift. No, I got the message saying we are looking into it further, or only rewards are given when you provide more sufficient numbers of reports. Like, thats awful. If you want help, reward the players. Bots in directly help the community, so if lakoo wants the community to report bots and look negatively on bots, there should be rewards for finding and recognizing bots. 

    Its up to lakoo to help the players and community, who are helping them. If lakoo disapproves of bots, then there should be rewards for bots detection, if lakoo disaproves of the bots tell the community why bots are so unfair to the average empire online player. It doesnt seem to be a question of how bots effect us, that answer is they effect us in a positive way. The question is lakoo needs help, and they are not pulling their weight.

    As for the illegal part, people mod games all the time. Theres always someone smarter than you, more clever than you. In the case of bots, lakoo needs the communties help. They cannot patrol everything all the time, all I am saying is if they want us to detect bots then reward us. But do not expect players to believe bots are the most evil things in the game, when for the majority of players bots are greatly helpful to advancing the game and making it more enjoyable. When a new building comes out, everyone checks it out, and re-skills and its fun.

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    Leo

    this sound to me like a thief telling a judge that he should not be punished as he is stealing to spend on his needs and thus help the economy to grow.

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    Ming

    lee's point of view is rather professional to mmorpg players lol. economy was totally destroyed by lakoo's management. fancy raining red hares, senior hawk. now no one contributes resources to get points for exchange and war-ring for badges lol.finally we're in midst of recovering but i dont think economy would be any better. most noobs got 'riching' up over the night. spent gc all on silver for spells. gc cant cycle as well as previously. and tapjoy gold coins giving so much problem. but at least theres the event for guides rewarding gc. hope more ppl get the cycle going =P

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    Leo

    Lol just giving an analogy on COTs rationalization of bots.

    The way lajoo

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    Lee Cotterill

    There's a question they ask you in fourth year physiology course that is said to determine your intelligence, or rather your ability to think beyond the norm. It goes... Should someone be punished by law if he or she is caught stealing to feed their hungry daughter or son? There's three answers: 1. Punished them to full extend of the law. 2. Punish them but not too severely 3. No.

    Just because it's law doesn't mean things are correct. There are numerous law that are simply stupid. There are communities which don't allow you to wear jeans or white t-shirts. It's law but it's redicilous. Just because something is illegal doesn't means it's wrong.
    It's a video game, bots don't harm anyone who is actually playing the game. And those who argue it harms the game simply do nothing to encourage others to report bots. There's no reasoning they provide that is sound, no reward for reporting bots.

    For a company that gives such low odds in chests, bags etc. don't we as players deserve a better gaming experience for the $? We had an iap event which gave free bags for supporting lakoo, just we had to additionally use that bought silver to open the "gifts". The odds of getting a nice perm fashion was tiny. I opened a whole bunch and got nothing.

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    RyuFang

    It realy seems like ur problem isnt that lakoo is "persecuting" these bots and bot makers, but rather that you just seem mad because you didn't get a prize for helping to stop a criminal act. The reason lakoo has to have us do the legwork is because they basicly lack the power to do it themselves. This isnt WoW were they can hire a crack team of the world's best computer geniuses to build a perfect firewall; its a small company that can barely manage to fix a silver problem, let alone try to stop a hacker. Though it SHOULDN"T be needed for lakoo to offer a prize for stopping this, it would be a good idea (nothing loosens a persons lips like a little incentive.0

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    Leo

    Lol I have a good laugh reading cots post. I agree with ryu tht u kinda sound sore that u did not get any rewards for reporting. Perhap u should relook at your arguements at a later date. Perhaps u will realize where u went wrong.

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    Jillzy z

    You want us to help the community so we can endure 99% tax at SG? Lol what u smokin cots?

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    solomon

    No gc are circulating, That's a big problem. We are trying to fix it.

    But it is not that simple as you thought. We are trying our best.

    To stop the BOT manually is a temp solution. We are upgrading our system to stop this automatically. Won't be long.

    Some times our judgement are based on the data, the gold coins problem is quite tricky, I can sense the economy has changed a bit. Part may because of the BOT problem. But there are more factors. In the following months, there will be major upgrades and some vintage events. We hope you will enjoy them.

    Thanks for your support.

    Kos

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    Leo

    U have my support kos

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    Ming

    i thought there was idea of converting silver to GC? or even better if copper is allowed too. =(

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    Ming

    @Jillzy z - U dont have to endure the 99% tax. u are not welcomed at all. We are the community from using our schools. =) If you have any issue build your own.

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    Ming

    typo. before i got mocked.

    u are not welcomed at all. We are stopping the community from using our schools. =) If you have any issue build your own.

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    Jillzy z

    Lol ming i shed a real tear. Of laughter.

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    Ming

    thats good. u shed too much blood for us. finally u r shedding something else lol.

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    Lee Cotterill

    Kos. You never answered why bots are bad... You never gave any reasons why, you never disagreed with the fact they help the game grow. As for Ming and sg group of empires. They can make their tax whatever the want. They grew their empire into a powerful triad so the rest of us have to live with it. Would I like lower taxes ofc, but all the more reason for whoever else I make an empire and try for glory

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    RyuFang

    just a sec lee, u just said that the sg empire empire can tax whatever they want. why? Because as YOU said, they created it and it belongs to them so it doesn't matter if its irrational or unfair right? So tell me if you are so firm in this belief, why is it that you DON"T believe the same for lakoo, that they don't have the right to do what they want with the game THEY CREATED despite what your opinions are. Isn't it completely reasonable that if you are so adamant about having the freedom to do as wish with ones own property and creation that they could just say: "oh? don't like our chest odds? too bad, deal with it" or "think Bots are fair? oh well, We don't". Im just saying, its your logic after all.

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    Rhastar2

    Bots destroy game economies.

    On Bots...

    I see where you are coming from Lee, but I personally do not support botting.  In the end it creates severe imbalances and ends up damaging the games economy due to the players botting gaining a significant advantage over others.  BOTs will be able seize a signifigant portion of the steadily decreasing gold supply due to a lack of gold being introduced to the game.  A few players could essentially take over the game and own the economy. this = bad.  

    I've been playing MMO's for a LONG time now and I can tell you from experience, that the games that allow/don't regulate BOTS get destroyed by them.  Sure it's nice in the start, but Empire Online will be destroyed in the end. 

    On Chests...

    I do agree that the chest rewards need to be fixed, because I too have spent a lot on gold coins and chests and after opening so many, I can no longer justify opening chests for an attempt at a good reward because the Risk vs Reward is severely challenged.  If these special epics , at least replace them with something else or add some new epics!

    Where is the Season2 Fashion at Kos?! ;)

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